Atomic City Talk

Emile is just twisted.

Hey, I'll beat Emile with his cane! We've already been on this subject. You and I were supposed to get twisted together around Christmas time!

Well here it is. Soldiers in this country do live in better living conditions than the inmates you mention live. When they are in the field that may change due to the circumstance to which they have been placed by the Congress and President and trained to survive in that circumstance. Otherwise they do not suffer when not deployed. Further, they volunteered to be put in that position when in the field and accept that responsibility, and are trained what to expect. Also, those very same type soldiers faught in WWII to release mistreated prisoners in Nazi Germany. Hmmmmmm?

Soldiers live under the conditions placed upon them based on a lack of funding in some instances. They are funded by the United States Congress. Prisoners find themselves captive by the government of the State of TN. in this instance. The State of Tennessee must follow the law as to how prisoners are treated, failure to not follow the law, in my opinion, by a government in this instance makes that government as bad as the criminal incarcerated. A double standard.

Soldiers (in this day and age) choose a vocation that may be dangerous and uncomfortable, for the greater good. While deployed, they endure conditions far more harsh than may be found in correctional institutions -- minus the captivity.

Prisoners choose their state-issued accommodations through their criminal actions.

Certainly the State must follow the law, but when the law has been twisted as this one has been, it must be changed. Work detail should not be elective, creature comforts should be minimal, and some sort of vocational training/rehabilitation should be mandatory.

Lastly, some attention should be given to how much time a convict actually has to serve, with those likely to re-offend, or those who pose a danger to others, being kept for their whole sentence.

"The point was that some don't have any problem with our soldiers living in tents for years or not being able to take showers, have hot meals, etc., but they demand better conditions for prisoners."

I don't have a problem with out soldiers living in tents when the occasion requires it. Neither do our soldiers. None of our soldiers are living continuously in tents for years.

"They also misunderstand the difference between a gulag (which only their heroes run) and a facility that provides minimal luxuries."

Ah, little AW. You get your panties in a twist over fictions. There is nobody who doesn't know the difference between a gulag and a facility that provides minimal luxuries.

What a silly little drama queen you are.

Sure soldiers choose. They choose it for a variety of reasons, only one of which is "for the greater good." There are also educational opportunities, lack of civilian jobs, housing allowances, and insurance.

Prisoners unconsciously choose the conditions they live in, and are forced to be there under armed guard and in hand cuffs. Most prisoners are there because the didn't think the would get caught.

Agreed, and unfortunately unless you are directly involved with the system, you really don't know that most of the above is already being done. Human actions and reactions is not a precise science. Performance is difficult to measure. Many convicts are "dual diagnosis" in mental health. They have either mental health issues, covered by drug abuse or sever learning disabilities.

One might say that if the Schools system could screen better in the middle school years for these issues, the prison system might receive some relief, after all that is where school system failures usually end up. In my experience anyway.

No, they choose to commit the crime, they do not think they will get caught.

And using your poster boy at:


http://www.oakridger.com/localnews/x5440...for-police

"The employee told police Franklin was trying to get into a car when he caught him. Franklin wouldn't tell police about the person in the car and said he didn't know why he stole the purse."

This is the case in about 90% of the cases. They "don't know why they did it. It is just an impulse thing. There is zero thinking put into it but that they think they can get away with it.

"LOL - like your pal obama, you obviously are totally unaware of the conditions under which our soldiers live. We have soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan that live in tents and have been for many months, sometimes for most of their tours there. Imagine the time it took to fake this video - http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=035_1215378796"

That link doesn't show that soldiers live continuously in tents for years, silly boy.

"So you think soviet gulags are fiction?"

Uh, no. I didn't post anything of the sort. Please try to read more carefully next time.

"You might want to stick to medicine since law enforcement/military concepts are out of your league."

At least something is in my league. You are out of your depth on every single topic you post on, AW. You can't even read accurately, a skill most children have mastered by grade school.

"And thanks for the silly little personal attacks"

Heh. Pot, kettle, black.

You're so cute when you play Mr. Sensitive.

And please tell me JM, how many criminals have you interviewed? How many have you interviewed and then read the police reports of their crime to compare the story? How many criminals have you done arrest verfications on? How many criminals have you done verified social histories on documenting let's say health, education, work history, or financial status?

Please do get back to me on that.

You wouldn't believe me if I told you. But considerable more than you have. Of course that could be 1.