Atomic City Talk

"I do think that blowing it off and allowing those who are caught to just pay back the money defeats the purpose of our laws."

Nobody blew this off. She didn't just have to pay back the money--she was fired, and will have trouble finding another job.

"If you don't like the laws"

Who says I don't like the laws?

" - then put in a hardship defense exception."

Discression is already permitted. Bailey has elected not to press charges.

"But don't whine about someone wanting to enforce laws we have fairly and across the board."

I'm not the one whining, AW. I'm cheering for Bailey.

Uh, no I have not missed that point. I have made that point several times stating that criminals do things because they think they will not get caught. Since they think they will not get caught, your deterrent theory is wrong. If they thought they would get caught they would not do it and deterrence is not in the equation.

"What is "discression"? You mean discretion?"

Yes. Thanks for that clarification. As you know, I prize good spelling, although my typing is not up to par.

"So if he had used discretion and said she could just keep the money and the job since she needed it, you would be okay with that too?"

No. Do you have a point?

And this happens in what world AW? It has been my experience if an employer does not press charges for stealing they discharge the employee. Totally illogical question because it simply does not happen.

Please advise me as to the status of the "arrangements" in Knox Co.. The last report I had that it was being investigated and an independent prosecuter had been appointed. Do you know something the KNS or WBIR doesn't?

As to the teacher, I believe she is in the same state as the present employee, discharged. She was not prosecuted for any criminal acts that may or may not have happened. Your point?

Uh, she may have been in the media. The process of termination was initiated. Due process is being allowed. No matter the outcome. She is even in the position of appealing. All may be incovenient but the termination process is being followed. Whether it should have been done is the issue at hand int he case.

Your analogy doesn't get it with me on this one.

If it is no secret please post a link. It is my understanding that the Commission was found in violation of the Open Meetings Act and the possible misuse of Pcards is being investigated along with the "hospitality fund" possible misuse of that budget line item that a County Commisison approved as part of their function. Again your point? And where is your documentation?

"Uh, she may have been in the media."

Gee - how many more stories in the media would you have to have before you could definitely say she WAS in the media? You even parse known facts which aren't even in dispute.
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I parsed the words out of respect for the process and Regular Guy. This thing is not over and I would rather not discuss that situation in depth.

And yet you avoided my questions and zeroed in on a non issue in this thread?

First, you should realize that not everything one knows can be proven with documentation. For example, some documentation is sensitive or has Privacy Act implications and cannot be released. Second, you can be aware of situations based on second-hand reports from those involved that do not want their identity revealed for obvious reasons. And last, If one is not directly involved, you don't have access to all of the information. And, I know this is a shock, but not all information is found in Wikipedia or on the net at all. It is much like the swinger's club. I know it is there and that is about I can say. I am sure someone around has a list of all the prominent Oak Ridgers involved with the Elk's club which just got busted, but they may not be able to put it on the web.
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Now you are dancing. Just address the questions or hush, Ok?

Let me be more blunt - people that need to know already know and are working it. People who are just rubber-neckers don't need to know. If you don't already know then you are probably in group 2. There is a very good indication of serious wrongdoing, but it is a crap shoot as to whether people will be held accountable or just allowed to repay money and skate or just resign and not be culpable at all.
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Let me be perfectly clear. You said the 'arrangements had been made in Knox". Then you said, "but it is a crap shoot as to whether people will be held accountable or just allowed to repay money and skate or just resign and not be culpable at all."

Then I am correct. Nothing has happened yet. You are involved in conjecture. Funny, it has happened and documented in Knox now you don't know if it or not.

The first was properly addressed. Check the court records. As far as the school is concerned, you are involved in law enforcement and know that unless the school presses charges, no action can be taken and since it appears that the school is satisfied with restitution then there is no more that can be done about it. No one said it was ok to steal but as usual you do not comprehend very well. Check in Circuit Court Clerks Office when you are at work in your officers capacity and see what the punishment was in the first case. She pled guilty to theft over $10,000. Complete restitution was made. She was put on State probation for 2 years 360 days and served 5 days in jail, for a total of 3 years. She was also responsible for all court costs which were pretty high.