Atomic City Talk

"Bleeding hearts have had their chance and we know that approach does not work."

LOL! Butchers are in control in the ME and that approach does not work either. And prior to the so-called "bleeding hearts," we had more severe approaches in the US, and that does not work either.

The two factors that have the strongest affect on the crime rate are the fraction of the population between 16 and 30 and the employment rate. Lower unemployment leads to less crime. Older populations lead to less crime.

I can't wait for AW to twist this into something I didn't say.

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I have never said I "loved" the system. Why do you lie about me?

What I have said the system we have is better than most, including what you want and much better the the M.E. that JM is promoting with his little bunny video.

And no, not all "just keep stealing". You certainly cannot read arrest reports and gleen that particular thing. Might want to check records, and talk to people who really know like I have and continue to do.

Keep reading the paper on arrest reports, that is surely accurate as to what is totally happening. You see the start, the arrest but you never follow through with the outcome. The outcome is important, not the arrest.

Lenghthy arrest records as reported are not accurate:
1) They may, or may not be on probation/parole or whatever at the time of the offense.

2) Sentences may have been completed. (They cannot be held longer than prescribed by law)

3) They may be on probation/parole or whatever and get a violation and be sent off, sent to drug treatment, or any number of things. It most likely depends upon the type violation that happens.

So keep just looking at one aspect of the situation, the arrest report. Outcome is not important to you.

It must be difficult to be critical of every aspect of
American life.

"Please try to help me understand what benefit you and 73 derive from belittling others on education."

Jacket can speak for himself. I don't get any benefit from belittling others on education or on any other criteria. What benefit do you get belittling others based on their political party or political leanings (because you do this all the time, and link the most absurd and silly things to "dems" and "liberals")? What benefit do you derive from pontificating on subjects that you know little or nothing about (number of gang members in OR, energy, evolution, global warming)?


"If I wanted to know about their area of expertise, I would ask them, but their opinions about anything else are no more valuable than those of the janitor or secretary."

OK. I've seen this too. I also know plenty of PhDs who are informed and articulate on a wide variety of subjects. Did you have a point?

"That is a concept that I think you guys have yet to learn - sometimes you can be over-educated (in your mind) to the point where you think you know it all."

LOL! And you're gonna be our teacher, eh, AW? That's hilarious.

"IQ, education, common sense, and reasoning ability are all different and having lots of one doesn't mean you automatically get any of the others."

Do you think you're saying something profound here, AW. I don't put everybody down just because they don't have the same training as me. But I won't hesitate to put down people who attack me, attack my beliefs, post false information and try to pass themselves off as experts on topics they are ignorant about (I'm lookin' at you, AW).

"Try to be a little more civil and lose some of the condescending attitude - it doesn't look good on anyone."

Least of all you. Your condescending effort to preach to us in this post is a prime example.

"So your theory about unemployment correlates with the huge surge in crime during the Great Depression how?"

Go back and read my post, AW. I posted "The two factors that have the strongest affect on the crime rate . . . " If I had posted "The two factors that everywhere and always completely predict all crime . . ." you would have a point. As I predicted, you did twist my words again.

"And I believe the correct word is "effect" not "affect"."

Nope. Sorry. Do play again sometime.

"If you weren't so politically correct, you would mention that the biggest factor is the usually the non-white minority population percentage."

If you weren't such a racist, you would mention that unemployment is highest in the non-white minority population. Crime is not caused by skin color, AW.

My guess is yes, that is why he is in Brushy Mtn. Those factors are used in determining where they go. His must have been pretty bad. He is right where you want him using my methods.

Your point?

The unemployment rate in the State of Tn. is 6.5%. That is 2% above full employment when calculated at 4% or below.

http://www.state.tn.us/labor-wfd/news/june2008state.htm

I don't think that is "low."

There you go stereotyping again. There are other factors. Unemployment being one of them.

The people counted in the stats are the people collecting unemployment. Once your benefits run out you are no longer in the stats.

I think the last paragraph said what I said.

If the topic is "Oak Ridge"....JM, why are you quoting police arrests that pertain to Lake City? AW, you babble about problems in Chicago and Detroit. What has any of that got to do with solving crimes here?

Bottom line is crooks are stupid. In their minds, they are fearless and invisible (and/or invincible). Whether it's a cry for attention, the need of feeding the monkey on their back, depression, or just plain stupidity, they're bound to get caught. The first step of getting them in jail is to teach the people (the "good" ones). They need to understand the importance of: filing a police report; pressing charges; and most important - showing up for the hearing in court.