Atomic City Talk - Pro-Life and Pro-Choice Booths at Secret Ciy

Justme:

You just answered a question. Pro-Life means only God can take a life. A person who is pro-life does not beleive in the death penalty. You are not pro-life if you are in favor of the death penalty. Go to that pro-life group and ask them if they agree with the death penalty and they will protest that the same as abortion. You can't pick and choose when it is ok. It is either right or wrong according to the meaning of pro-life.

Trina:

If it should occur then you should have the choice to do something about it if a pregnancy results from incest. It goes back to CHOICE. And E you are correct pro-life opposes death penalty. It is black and white with a true pro-lifer. There is no choice it is only the choice of God. A pro-choicer believes God gave a free will to make decisions and then be accountable for those decisions to your God.

trina Wrote:

And I’m certain that it would do nothing to change the law or the minds of those convinced that they have a right to do whatever they please with "their" bodies.

I have MY opinion.

That is something that YOU and NO ONE ELSE can take away from me.

Get off of my cloud.

Blowin Smoke Wrote:

I have MY opinion.
That is something that YOU and NO ONE ELSE can take away from me.

Who was trying to take it away from you?

BTW, Roe v Wade didn't bestow a choice on anyone - women have always had a choice - make that CHOICES.

poisonivy Wrote:

Trina:
If it should occur then you should have the choice to do something about it if a pregnancy results from incest. It goes back to CHOICE.

Well sure, I've never said anything to the contrary. But I'm asking you - does the government have the right to make consentual, adult incest illegal?

Trina:

Incest is a form of child sexual abuse and therefore a crime in our system so do I feel the government has a right, yes because there are laws. I know where you are going with this and remember, this is a born child not a fetus. The laws are in place.

askwhy Wrote:

Well, that is YOUR opinion.... God gives everyone the free will to do what they will, but also holds people accountable for their actions.

Therefore, WHY do you insist on telling others how to think and act?

Again, the original question to this thread was to do with "Why were such actions allowed at a community event?"

I love these rambling claims that wind up not making any sense and they certainly do not portray any groups' actual opinion other than the projections of the claimant. Perhaps a bit more could be made of all this if we consider competing interests, but that seems beyond many of us. Perhaps if we allow for actual discussion before the accusations...

trina Wrote:

does the government have the right to make consensual, adult incest illegal?

Sure. Society (through its enforcer, the government) has an interest in not encouraging people born with birth defects that may need government support.

askwhy Wrote:

CrackerNation Wrote:

I love these rambling claims that wind up not making any sense and they certainly do not portray any groups' actual opinion other than the projections of the claimant. Perhaps a bit more could be made of all this if we consider competing interests, but that seems beyond many of us. Perhaps if we allow for actual discussion before the accusations...

trina Wrote:

does the government have the right to make consensual, adult incest illegal?

Sure. Society (through its enforcer, the government) has an interest in not encouraging people born with birth defects that may need government support.

LOL - so you are okay with it as long as they use birth control? Or agree to get abortions? So you are good with mandatory sterilization of women on crack, heroin, etc., since you have the same outcome?

This is what I was referring to in the first paragraph. Care to try again?

And anyone who supports a late term abortion ban without a health of the mother provision might as well be a member of the Taliban.