What I think we can all agree to is that abortions should be minimized. And that starts with results based sex education which allow more kids to make informed, responsible choices for themselves throughout their lives.
Absolutely! But, please remember that no form of birth control (short of abstinence) is 100%. I don't know the percentage of early-term elective abortions are performed on women who had used some form of birth control, but I expect that it's a significant number.
Even sterilization sometimes fails... the docs tell you that when you sign up for disconnection.
The point about the safety of the woman is that she already engaged in behavior that likely causes the condition so she has already assumed whatever risks are involved.
Or more likely made a mistake or was involved in an accident. What you want is for her to be restrained from dealing with her reality and mitigating her risks. And in exchange for that restraint on her freedoms, you are offering nothing. You won't adopt the kid, you won't pay for its private school, you won't pay for the transition to a larger home, and you won't even pay for child care so she can work to support her life and other possible dependents. You want a lot and are offering less than nothing.
One thing for sure - abortion sure as hell is more dangerous to the child than childbirth is to the woman!
Except there is no child involved. The woman is a woman, and I suspect that all the medical attendants are also adults.
Actually, there is a large waiting list for adoptions. If you aren't aware, there are many people who will adopt these babies. The lack of American babies...
Except almost 90% of domestic adoptions involve damaged children. It is far safer for a couple to consider overseas if they pay attention to sources.
Actually, with partial birth abortions, there is indeed a viable child that would live/survive fine if they didn't kill it just before it is completely born. Even many people who agree with abortion find it very difficult to justify this extreme procedure so late in the pregnancy, but I see you are a hard-core believer with no feelings so i am sure you are okay with it as long as we don't inconvenience the woman or allow anyone to be insensitive enough to expose anyone to the graphic horror of the actual procedure.
Sorry to disappoint you. I have no problems with restrictions on late term abortions. Remember that 90% occur in the first 12 weeks and only about 1% occur after 21 weeks.
Way less than 1% of all abortions are for the actual health of the woman, they are mostly for convenience.
That mantra does not stand up to reality. All abortions improve the safety of the woman.
AW -
You say "toe-mah-toe", I say "toe-may-toe".
I think you're beyond the initial question and as a result this is getting ridiculous.
The fact is there is a "choice" in today's society. My opinion remains my own. Therefore, no one - NO ONE can decide for me. It is MY choice.
Let a woman be herself. Choice included.
Let it go.
"That mantra does not stand up to reality. All abortions improve the safety of the woman."
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Cracker
There are lots of studies which dispute this claim:
Ah the mantra of the oppressors!
Riddle me this:
Why do your sources factor in suicide in the year following the termination of the pregnancy and wrongly associate the suicide only with the method of termination rather than considering factors that might have been instrumental in making the original decision?
Why do your sources only consider mortality and not other health compromising results?
Why do your sources include results from countries where abortion is legally or societally opposed thus not factoring in safe medical procedures and certainly not chemical procedures and the associated earlier terminations?
AW -
Let a woman be herself. Choice included.
Actually he does have a choice!
I know this is way off topic, but why in the world would pro-life or pro-choice folks be allowed to set up shop at the SCF?
I know this is way off topic, but why in the world would pro-life or pro-choice folks be allowed to set up shop at the SCF?
They probably paid the permit fees.
Cracker:
Good one!!! What you do not understand is I really feel very few people promote abortion. You are loosing sight this is a right to choose thing. People like to state if you are pro choice you are pro abortion and it is not that black and white. This is not about is abortion right or wrong it is about a woman's choice to decide what course her life is to take. You can make it sound any way you want to but it is still the choice of the person with the uterus carrying that fetus. Protect and do as you wish but you have no say so in it. It is the choice of that woman and no one else. Oh, and I don't care how many guns you carry legally. It is my choice not to go packing, yes MY CHOICE.
The real issue in the abortion argument when it first came about was not a judgment as to the moral issue of the procedure being right or wrong. The issue was: Does the United States Constitution protect the rights of Citizens to privacy in matters on personal health, financial, and everyday life decisions. The answer was yes. The Constitution prohibits the government from becoming involved in personal matters without probable cause and due process. This is even further reinforced with todays HIPPA regulations.
The privacy issue IS in the Constitution, in the form of the 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th amendments and the 14th. If the Founding Fathers had not believed in privacy they certainly would not have required such things as a prohibition in Self incremenation, search and seizure regulations, no housing of government troops, and so on.
Roe V. Wade can be easily remedied. It simply takes a Constitutional Amendment. Wonder why that hasn't happened yet, the passage of such that is?