Whether you like my nicknames or not is of no consequence to me. It is better than your belittling of peoples political choices. If you choose to be conservative, fine. I respect that but you show no respect to anyone. For all you know, I am too. You can have an opinion without belittling everyone elses. Anyone is welcome here and if you are so offended you can choose not to post.
Although '73 and I disagree often (and have for several years now), he's a good person with a brilliant mind. We are fortunate to share his company, IMO.
With all due respect, NM, even when he disagrees with you (and a few others like Jacket) ’73 rarely demonstrates the same level of hostility towards you as he does most of the rest of us. He chooses his words with you much more carefully whereas he attempts to patronize others in nearly every response he posts. You know you can relate, but only if you choose to.
Maybe because we have earned his respect by demonstrating that we understand concepts, have open minds to new concepts, and can do and follow research. Further, we don't patronize him, we have discourse.
That is because you and he agree...Should you ever give an opinion that does not match his, watch your back...I do not care what he says about me...taxophobe or otherwise...Free country...let him say it.
He and I have disagreed several times. The most heated discussion was our positions on Affirmative Action at another site. It was fun and most civil, and enlightening. I still disagree with him, and he I (or at least I think he would). This disagreement makes neither of us wrong, it is our POV. The difference is we both attempted to use research and logic for our positions. We have yet to figure out what you, AW, and trina use.
Doc has been trained to do reasoned thought using evidence. You, well I really don't know how your thought processes were trained but it isn't reasoned. It is emotional, I guess. You do not use data or evidence, and when shown data or evidence you discount it if it does not conform to your socialized thought patterns. This, indicates to me anyway, a lack of education.
NM and Doc disagree more than they agree. Both are gracious but they do use snark. So what? They have thick skin. Could you, trina or AW be lacking in that category? IMHO, yes. Sorry, but you do not know the history between some of the old posters on here, (refugees from the other site) to really draw any conclusion about the relationships.
Thanks for the kind words.
JCE
Ah, some hint of sensibility returning. BTW, several of us who are "refugees" from the old forum don't really know each other (as in, having actually met in person), even though it seems like we do. I've met Jacket in person only once -- twice, if you count waving from our respective cars in the Wal-Mart parking lot; much as I'd like to, I've yet to actually meet ORHS 73 in real life.
But, the reason we're here instead of there is that we were looking for a place with just a little higher standard of decency and congeniality. That doesn't mean we have to agree (that would be immensely boring). But, balancing banter with a modicum of respect goes a long, long way toward a civil discussion of issues.
I'm not asking anyone to be fake... just try not to be meaner than you would be in person.
Ah, some hint of sensibility returning. BTW, several of us who are "refugees" from the old forum don't really know each other (as in, having actually met in person), even though it seems like we do. I've met Jacket in person only once -- twice, if you count waving from our respective cars in the Wal-Mart parking lot; much as I'd like to, I've yet to actually meet ORHS 73 in real life.
But, the reason we're here instead of there is that we were looking for a place with just a little higher standard of decency and congeniality. That doesn't mean we have to agree (that would be immensely boring). But, balancing banter with a modicum of respect goes a long, long way toward a civil discussion of issues.
I'm not asking anyone to be fake... just try not to be meaner than you would be in person.
Ah, mean, I don't think anyone is being mean, just driving home points with snark. A little thicker skin helps. The split thread was no worse for wear than some at the old site, BMC and BORX. Those two turned things on their head. Nobody has used real names with reckless abandon, rediculed children of posters, and the like which was a major problem.
And NM, I'll buy the first Sam Adams (without broken glass in the bottle) if you buy the next on your statement. Deal?
Ah, some hint of sensibility returning. BTW, several of us who are "refugees" from the old forum don't really know each other (as in, having actually met in person), even though it seems like we do. I've met Jacket in person only once -- twice, if you count waving from our respective cars in the Wal-Mart parking lot; much as I'd like to, I've yet to actually meet ORHS 73 in real life.
But, the reason we're here instead of there is that we were looking for a place with just a little higher standard of decency and congeniality. That doesn't mean we have to agree (that would be immensely boring). But, balancing banter with a modicum of respect goes a long, long way toward a civil discussion of issues.
I'm not asking anyone to be fake... just try not to be meaner than you would be in person.
Ah, mean, I don't think anyone is being mean, just driving home points with snark. A little thicker skin helps. The split thread was no worse for wear than some at the old site, BMC and BORX. Those two turned things on their head. Nobody has used real names with reckless abandon, rediculed children of posters, and the like which was a major problem.
I really do believe the goal of helping Oak Ridge thrive is better obtained by us working together in a good spirit of give and take...I am glad that there are opposing views (and not everything can be bottled as conservative or liberal either)...I have no doubt that all of you want the best for our community and country...Our system is really quite remarkable to allow public discourse on issues...
I will admit there have been times when I spiked the conversation a little when that was not really needed...We can not always agree but at least for me I am willing to learn and consider everyone's ideas and ideals...I will just have to watch that nasty side of me...
Thank you everyone for listening.
We all have a nasty side and get incited by certain comments. We need to realize that we all have an opinion. If we all agreed with each other then there would be no need for a forum to discuss issues. Being open minded and learning from each other can help to make this county a better place to live. We surely can be respectful to each other as we disagree. You know what they say about opinions, they are like a** h**** we all have one. Hey Doc did I spell ensighted right, I am too lazy to go look it up. I tried it with i and e, e looked better.
"Hey Doc did I spell ensighted right,"
I have no idea what "ensighted" means. Perhaps you mean "incited?"
BTW, I agree with you about opinions. Mine get attacked here all the time.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but everyone isn't entitled to their own facts. What seems to upset some people here is when I correct their factual errors. Evidently, some folks here aren't accustomed to being contradicted, and rather than responding on the issue, they just resort to invective. Apparently, it is considered arrogant by some folks here to believe that accuracy and honesty matters, that knowing what you're writing about is important, and citing sources is better than making up stuff. If that's the case, color me arrogant.
This will be my last post. No need to reply.
As some have stated, '73 may be brilliant but there is something very wrong with a person who is as full of anger and hostility as he.
Good night and good luck to all.