From WATE's web site:
Senate approves bill allowing guns where alcohol's served
NASHVILLE (AP) -- A person with a handgun permit could carry the weapon in an establishment that serves alcohol under a bill passed by the Senate.
The measure sponsored by Sen. Doug Jackson passed 24-6 Wednesday.
The Dickson Democrat says the legislation would not apply if the owner of the premises has banned weapons from being brought inside and posted a notice informing people of the ban.
The gun owner also wouldn't be allowed to consume alcohol while in the establishment.
Sen. Rosalind Kurita was among those who voted against the measure. The Clarksville Democrat says liquor and guns just don't mix.
The companion to the bill remains in a House subcommittee.
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http://www.legislature.state.tn.us/bills...SB0023.pdf
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This sounds like a really bad idea. I agree with Sen. Kurita. Then again, I don't drink, don't carry a gun, and prefer not to be around people who are stupid enough to do both at the same time.
This is a really, really bad idea. Knife fights in bars are bad enough, now we add firepower. Like no drinking will be allowed. Yeah, right. What morons.
Well, next time I'm in OR, I'll certainly stay the hell away from the bars. This is certainly a new low.
Well, next time I'm in OR, I'll certainly stay the hell away from the bars. This is certainly a new low.
Unfortunately it would apply to your friendly neighborhood restaurants as well as just the bars. I'm with Jacket; what a bunch of morons.
Does anyone know how to find out who voted "yes" and who voted "no"?
Just found this on the Kingsport Times News web site (I've removed the parts that are the same as the story posted above):
Senate approves bill allowing guns where alcohol served
By LUCAS L. JOHNSON II
Associated Press Writer
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Tennessee is a step closer to joining more than 30 other states that allow individuals with handgun permits to carry the weapon in establishments that serve alcohol...
[Sen. Doug] Jackson said the bill doesn't interfere with the rights of business owners and ensures that gun owners will be able to defend themselves in such an establishment if necessary. Currently, he said some individuals leave their weapons in their vehicles or don't bring them at all.
Right now, "we're asking law-abiding citizens to put their guns up and walk inside these establishments without a means of self-defense," said Jackson, adding that 34 states have similar legislation.
However, several lawmakers said they're concerned about what might happen with guns and alcohol in the same room.
"Liquor and guns don't mix," said Sen. Rosalind Kurita, D-Clarksville. "I'm a nurse, and I've seen enough unnecessary death."
Sen. Beverly Marrero said she's uncomfortable with the legislation because of the irrational behavior she's seen in bars.
"I was relatively happy that the people in those bars weren't armed," said the Memphis Democrat.
The other dissenting voters were: Sens Charlotte Burks, D-Monterey; Thelma Harper, D-Nashville; Joe Haynes, D-Goodlettsville; and Andy Berke, D-Chattanooga.
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Right now, "we're asking law-abiding citizens to put their guns up and walk inside these establishments without a means of self-defense," said Jackson... How about "we're asking law-abiding citizens to put their gus up and walk inside these establishments without a means of starting a gun fight and creating a hail of bullets that will injure, kill, maim, etc., God knows how many people?"
And they say politicians are idiots. You have to question their mentality. I wonder how ours voted. This sounds like the Wild Wild West. What I think is funny is that you were not allowed to have a gun in a bar but you were in the courthouse.
I thought at first this was only a committee vote and we were rather lucky at this point. I suggest calling your Senator or email and voice displeasure. Guns and alcohol mix about like alcohol and driving. Bullets don't have eyes, and if the one aiming doesn't see clearly, then wow.
I'll have another Miss Kitty, somebody get the Marshal.
I thought at first this was only a committee vote and we were rather lucky at this point. I suggest calling your Senator or email and voice displeasure. Guns and alcohol mix about like alcohol and driving. Bullets don't have eyes, and if the one aiming doesn't see clearly, then wow.
I'll have another Miss Kitty, somebody get the Marshal.
As usual, everyone is spouting off and doesn't understand the law. The proposed law does NOT allow anyone to drink and carry a weapon. It allows law-abiding citizens with carry permits to carry inside restaurants that serve alcohol. AS LONG AS THEY DON"T DRINK THEMSELVES! It also allows police officers to carry there when they are not on a call (which is the requirement now).
Also, the 34 other states that allow carry where liquor is served have had NO PROBLEMS! This is another case where people let their liberal bias override their logic. The truth is NONE OF THE GUN CONTROL LAWS WORK because criminals don't obey the law!
I understand the law, I just disagree with it. What part of that didn't you understand? I can explain it if need be. As far as criminal's not obeying the law, I know that probably better than you. You say that gun holders with a concealed carry permit are law abiding? What happens when one drinks, (hint against this law), in an establishment while packing? They just broke the law. That changes them to non law abiding.
There is no need for this law, just another political move to calm fraidy cats that need to have their security blanket with them. Shame Marshal Dillon.
If people are really concerned about problems with alcohol, perhaps you would support taking away drinking privileges from those convicted of DWIs? Since everyone must show an ID, make it a crime to provide alcohol to someone with a DUI license.
The Legislature is in session Jr. have at it with your rep. and senator. If you know who they are.
BTW, I'm not "liberal" when it comes to guns. I own guns, am trained to shoot guns, (actually have college credit in firearms and marksmanship SAFETY) and respect them by knowing their place. That place is not in the bar setting.
Of course we should keep in mind that the only people dissuaded by the gun carry laws from carrying weapons in establishments serving alcohol are the law abiding citizens. Those who don't respect the law will carry them anyway - without a permit.